Monday, June 20, 2011

Repurposing the Autodesk USB Media

You have received one of the Autodesk Suites, installed it, and you want to use the USB key for some other purpose.

It is not immediately obvious that this is possible.  There is some very decent write protection in play here - you can't delete the partitions in Windows or Linux, you can't format in Safe Mode, you can't even use low level format tools or the HP USB Format tool.

You have to go deeper.  Continue at your own risk... (below the bars)

NOTE:  When reading the Comments, you may have to press "load more" at the very end of the page to see the most recent ones.

EDIT 12
Recent anonymous comment refers to a pin mod that may save bricked drives, screenshot included here:
Circuit diagram here

EDIT 11 - 64gb Education Master Suite
From the comments:
  • MPALL_F1_7F00_DL17_v363_0C / Phison MPALL v3.63.0C-DL17
  • Start it, put your usb stick into your USB 3.0 port.
  • Click update, then settings.
  • Choose advance settings and load the ini file, the same that Mike created.
  • Click save, and ok on a pop-up window.
  • Close settings window by clicking on "x".
  • Click start, the process lasts for about a minute and it's doneWARNINGS There is some evidence of newer drives being bricked.
 Some things you shouldn't do:
  • Do not use the formatter.zip on the latest 2014 version TOSHIBA USB 3.0 with the 2251-03
  • Do not try to force a certain BIN file onto the drives firmware using MPALL  
EDIT 10 - 2014 drives
Solved by Mike in the comments.  He also provides a link to download the proper version, at:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwZ-eoAYLKKAMnpnQi1hbnpVSUk/edit?usp=sharing

Mike's steps:
I used Phison MPALL v3.63.00.. not the 3.63.0C or the 3.63.0c-DL17

Plug into a usb3.0 port.. this is critical. YOU MUST USE USB3

Copy the contents between the ===== to a new file named 2014_2251-03.ini

===========================================
[PenDriveMP]
IC Type=PS2251-03
[Parameter Mark]
Parameter Type=F1_MP_21
[Customize Info]
USB VID=0x0930
USB PID=0x1400
String Product Name=USB DISK 3.0
String Manufacturer Name=TOSHIBA
Inquiry Version=PMAP
Use30Fixture=1
IDBlkLibrary_Version=1.2.16.0
[Configuration]
Reset Serial Number=0
[TestItemOption]
Do Preformat Test=1
[Extra]
Mode=3
[Misc]
Volume Label=USB DISK
Burner Erase All=1
Wafer Erase All=1
set1667=0x00
[Advance]
FC1=0xFF
FC2=0x01
CheckLegacy=1
[Firmware]
ISP=0
===========================================


Open MPALL_F1_0702_V363_00.exe

Click Update

Click Setting, select "Advanced Setting" then press OK

Click the load button and select the 2014_2251-03.ini file you created earlier.

Click Save, press OK
close the settings window

Click Start...


EDIT 9 - 3 step process for 2013

This may seem a bit long winded, but I think it might be a good way for 2013 media kit:
  1. Run MPALL 363 c (as per settings below) (make sure its revision C)
  2. Run Silicon Power Formatter
  3. Format using Windows
You can try this process in MPALL (step 1 above):
Recieved Brand New USB's For Autodesk Design Suite 2013 Premium
IC version 2251-67

This is how i reformatted them
Download MPALL_F1_9000_v363_00 and MPALL_F1_9000_v363_0C

Run Getinfo
open MPALL_F1_9000_v363_00

Click Update
In Advanced settings
set Controller to PS2251-67 and FC1-FC2 to 01
In Firmware tick 'Do ISP' 'Erase Code Block' and 'Auto ISP'
In Partition Seeting Tab
Set Number of Partition to 1
Save and Press Start
This will Fail

Close MPALL_F1_9000_v363_00
run getinfo in MPALL_F1_9000_v363_0C folder
and open MPALL_F1_9000_v363_0C

Update again
go into advanced settings
set Controller to PS2251-62 and FC1-FC2 to 01
Untick all boxes in firmware

In Flash Settings Tab Check
Auto Detect
Preformat
Erase Flash

In Partition Setting Tab
set 'No of Partitions to 1'

save and press start




EDIT 8 - For 2013 media (Thanks Peter in the Comments)I tried Formatter_SiliconPower - fail.  UFD Recover Tool - Fail.
Edit MP.ini and paste the following:
[PenDriveMP]
IC Type=PS2251-67
[Parameter Mark]
Parameter Type=F1_MP_21
[Customize Info]
USB VID=0x13FE
USB PID=0x4100
String Product Name=USB DISK 2.0
Inquiry Version=PMAP
[Configuration]
Reset Serial Number=0
AutoFirmware=1
[TestItemOption]
Do Preformat Test=1
[Extra]
Mode=3
[Misc]
Volume Label=USB DISK
Burner Erase All=1
Wafer Erase All=1
set1667=0x00
[Advance]
FC1=0xFF
FC2=0x01
[Firmware]
ISP=1
 
Open  MPALL_F1_0702_v363_00.exe
Tick MP.ini
Click Update
Click Start
Wait...
*Should work*

However, I was getting IDBLK version check error.  I think maybe I had broken my drive using the Formatter tools.  Tried a lot of different settings but this drive is looking very dead.  Will update if I find a way to fix it.
Using GetInfo
Firmware date 2012-11-29
MP Ver. MP v255.FF.FF
MPALLs can be obtained:


EDIT 7 - For PS2251-67 (From Ryan Ruta in the Comments)
I found a solution for the latest drive that I received with the PS2251-67 Controller.
1. Download the file from this link... http://www.silicon-power.com/UFD_Recover_Tool/UFD_Recover_Tool.rar and extract it to your drive.
2. Plug in your USB drive.
3. Run the format tool from the download.
4. Unplug your USB drive and plug it back in.
5. Format the drive using the Windows format tool (or other tool of your choice) as NTFS.


EDIT - 5 From the comments, for DaneElec zMate USB 32 GB:
Inside my USB Drive (also named DaneElec zMate USB 32 GB) I found a controller SM3254Q AE, produced by SMI. I used smi_mptool_v2.03.34_v7_j1118_3254ae and now it works.
The software I downloaded from site: http://tagievara.narod.ru/pages/programs/flash/smi.html
Direct URL: http://depositfiles.com/files/acu0018d9

1. Run sm32Xtest.exe.
2. Press "Scan USB" button.
3. Press "Start" button.
After few minutes the device is ready to use.


EDIT 6 - for Autodesk Product Design Suite Ultimate 2013
The installation USB flash memory (key, dongle) used for distribution of Autodesk Design Suites is a read-only device and cannot be overwritten or formatted with standard methods.
If you want to "misuse" this USB memory to store your data you can "hack" it with internal reformatting, make it a standard R/W device.
E.g. Autodesk Product Design Suite Ultimate 2013 uses the USB key of the type "DaneElec zMate Aero" (blue) - see Dane-Elec - with the controller SM3254Q AE.
To overwrite this USB key you can use the utility SMI ReFixInfo. This tool can be downloaded here (file MI_ReFixInfo_1_0_0_1.7z).
Start the downloaded EXE and click "Reset Write Protect", W.P select Un-Write Protect. Then click Start.
Be warned! Make sure you have a backup copy of your original installation files. This procedure may lead to a damage of your USB key and is completely unsupported.
(by P.Hrazdil)
via CAD Forum - How to re-format the Autodesk instalation USB key?

I dismantled a spare USB key that we had received for Building Design Suite Premium.  This wasn't such an easy thing to do...but hopefully you won't have to, now that I have done it for you!




I already knew that it was ostensibly a Toshiba flash drive, code PA3708, 32 gb (have a look on the case of yours, see if it is the same).

However, what I really needed to know was the IC, or controller chip brand / make / model.  Dismantling the key told me it was a:
PHISON 2251-60-5

Ok, from here I found this page, which led me to download the Phison MPALL utility bundle.  You will need to download it too:
Phison_MPALL_v3.20.0B

Read on below the bars...

Also, if you're looking for a flash drive or an external drive, try looking here with coupons

EDIT-1  You may be able to find updated versions of MPALL via  Google Search.  I am unsure what the copyright / usage license situation is with this program  (deleted some links).

EDIT-2 Some people (in 2012) have had more success using USB Flash Tools (v2.10) USBFlashTools210.zip instead of the workflow with MPALL.  After downloading this program, there is an 'Erase' option that may work ... try it and post your results in the comments.  Read more at USB Flash Tools

EDIT-3 Others seem to have had success with Silicon Power Formatter, or preformat.exe 

EDIT-4  You may want to try Formatter first - Craig at iRevit has hosted the Formatter.zip and tested it (May 2012)



From here, it was a bit of trial and error.  This is how you do it:
  1. First of all, open GetInfo.exe
    Put in your drive letter and click 'Read'.  You should be able to get an output that looks something like this:
  2.  Next, open MPALL_F1_9000_v320_0B.exe
  3. Click 'Update'.  Your drive should show up here.
  4. Click 'Setting'
  5. Choose 'Advanced Setting' and 'New Setting' and OK.
  6. The controller that I had to choose was the PS2251-90 (which is a bit weird, because the chip said it was a 2251-60, but that didn't work).  So, anyway, here are the settings I chose:
  7. Controller = PS2251-90
  8. FC1-FC2 = 01
  9. Go to next tab - Flash Setting
  10. I think leave the defaults but tick the 'Erase Flash'
  11. Next tab - Partition Setting
  12. No. of partition = 1
  13. Choose 'Removable Disk'
  14. And once you are done, click 'Save'
  15. Then you should be able to click 'Start' and away you go!  You should see some formatting happen, then you will have to remove the drive and plug it in again...then you should have a nice 32 gb USB drive to use.
EDIT:  For the 16 gb USB, try using -60 controller setting.

 Note - the settings are saved in the MP.INI file.  Here is what my MP.INI file looked like:

[PenDriveMP]
IC Type=PS2251-90
[Parameter Mark]
Parameter Type=F1_MP_21
[Customize Info]
USB VID=0x13FE
USB PID=0x3D00
String Product Name=USB DISK 2.0
Inquiry Version=PMAP
[Configuration]
Reset Serial Number=0
[TestItemOption]
Do Preformat Test=1
[Extra]
Mode=3
[Misc]
Volume Label=USB DISK
Burner Erase All=1
Wafer Erase All=1
set1667=0x00
[Advance]
Tick=0
FC1=0xFF
FC2=0x01
[Firmware]
ISP=0

You can check and see if yours looks similar, or even load these settings and try them.


PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS PROCEDURE MAY COMPLETELY BRICK OR DESTROY YOUR USB DRIVE.  Make sure you have a backup of the software if you are going to attempt this.


So, how did you go?  Do you feel pretty good about yourself?  Really, that USB key would eventually become redundant, so we are making an environmentally wise choice by recycling it, aren't we?

286 comments:

  1. thanks for this tip.
    worked like a charm.

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  2. @jrostar Jason Rostar
    @dsmeade Need a new 32gb USB Drive? http://bit.ly/j4Z5Vl - Just did it to one of our extras and works GREAT!
    21 Jun via TweetDeck

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  3. @BIMfacts Brian Myers
    This works, how to format an Autodesk Suite flash drive to be your personal 32GB flash drive. http://t.co/hmR0dV8 (Just back it up first.)

    via Twitter

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  4. @Tyrael17 Alex
    How to Format Autodesk USB, goo.gl/SrGCr

    via Twitter

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  5. Any insight into the 16gb settings?

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  6. I posted a new version of the utility
    Phison MPALL v3.29.0B
    Added support for:
    PS2251-01
    PS2251-61
    PS2251-73
    PS2251-83
    http://tagievara.narod.ru/pages/programs/flash/phison.html

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  7. choosing the -60 works for the 16gb.

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  8. Here is something a bit weird - after copying the Autodesk data from the supposedly 32 gb drive, Windows Explorer reports the properties of the copied data Size on Disk at 38.0 gb! Why is this? Something to do with the allocation or sector size?

    Anyway, I compressed the copied data using some pretty decent settings on 7-zip and got it down to 15.7 gb...

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  9. Worked on Autodesk Product Design Suite Ultimate and Product Design Suite Premium 32GB USB Keys :)

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  10. Worked for me too! :)

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  11. Worked for me like a charm for Product Design Suite Ultimate, IC version 2251-50 . Thanks for this tip

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  12. Thanks a lot, it work very well

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  13. Amazing .... worked without any glitches.

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  14. Merci beaucoup cela à fonctionné pour nous !!

    Nous somme Français !!

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  15. Translation:
    Thank you very much it worked for us!

    We are French!

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  16. Thanks so much. It worked perfectly on the first try. I didn't want to just have this USB drive collecting dust in our office for all eternity. I searched and searched for generic help with this and nothing else worked. Cheers!

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  17. It worked with the 32 GB USB drive for me too.
    I also have a 64 GB USB drive from the Product Design Suite Ultimate. Anyone know which one to use then?

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  18. Did you use GetInfo to determine the IC version?

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  19. Worked Great Fanks

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  20. Thanks from Germany.

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  21. Thanks from the Czech Republic ... you are awesome ... GREAT JOB!!!

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  22. Hey! Thank you so much!
    Amazing tutorial, works 100% here
    32Gb Suite P.
    Great job!

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  23. Couldn't get it to work but not sure why. I tried most of the IC settings and none of them worked. I'm doing the 32 GB just like everyone else

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  24. Spino - Did you use GetInfo to determine the IC version?

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  25. Thanks for sharing! Worked great!

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  26. IC verison 2251-38
    FWVerin 02.08.20
    MPALL v3.29.00 MPALL v3.29.00H

    after the above the steps. Not if i open the pen drive, it says" Please insert a disk into drive f:"

    Please help me to resolve the issue

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  27. Hello Luke, I tried again the same steps. it work awesome.. thanks again

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  28. U did a grat job of finding and describing this process. THanks 4 sharing

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    1. Too funny. I can't believe you cracked it. Thanks for the tip!

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  29. Cheers! Worked fine when i waited long enough for it to complete :) Infrastructure Design Suite Standard - 16G.

    IC Version: 2251-38
    FWVersion: 02.08.20

    Here are MP.ini settings that worked for me:


    [PenDriveMP]
    IC Type=PS2251-60
    [Parameter Mark]
    Parameter Type=F1_MP_21
    [Customize Info]
    USB VID=0x13FE
    USB PID=0x3D00
    String Product Name=USB DISK 2.0
    Inquiry Version=PMAP
    [Configuration]
    Reset Serial Number=0
    File System 1=2
    [TestItemOption]
    Do Preformat Test=1
    [Extra]
    Mode=3
    [Misc]
    Volume Label=USB DISK
    Burner Erase All=1
    Wafer Erase All=1
    set1667=0x00
    [Advance]
    FC1=0xFF
    FC2=0x01
    [Firmware]
    ISP=0

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  30. It's a 16 GB Stick from a Building Design Suite Standard 2012 with the ICVersion 2251-50 / 30.
    I tested it with the ICVersion 2251-50, -30, -38, -60, -90 Versions. But I couldn't get it to work.
    "Preformat....BuiltPartition...Format File System Error, returned 0x5020"
    Can u help me? THX! :)

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  31. You could try the MP.ini settings posted above?

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  32. You could also try a different version of the Phison MPALL software to see if that works?

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  33. Worked Awesome took 5 minutes!
    Thanks!!!!!! My IC read said xxxx-50/30 I entered the "-50" selection and it worked a charm!

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  34. thanks man worked great

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  35. Thanks a lot : it works perfectly

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  36. Thank´s a lot, it work´s fine:-)

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  37. New Version
    v3.23.00\v3.32.0C\v3.33.0C
    in v3.32.0C ISP for UP21 (PS2261)

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  38. On a desktop computer we got an error saying "Lock drive volume". After that we tried it on my laptop and it worked fine.
    Thanks a lot.

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  39. MPALL 3.32.0C didn't work
    MPALL 3.33.0 was no longer available due to copyright.

    Finall MPALL 3.20.0B worked.

    THX a lot from Germany

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  40. Life is waaaay too short for this, stick it in the drawer of forgotten objects and nick your mates USB stick I say .... mwhahahaha!

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  41. Grettings from Sweden!!

    God Jul & Gott Nytt År

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  42. Mine too. Thanks all...

    IC Version: 2251-38
    FWVersion: 02.08.20


    [PenDriveMP]
    IC Type=PS2251-60
    [Parameter Mark]
    Parameter Type=F1_MP_21
    [Customize Info]
    USB VID=0x13FE
    USB PID=0x3D00
    String Product Name=USB DISK 2.0
    Inquiry Version=PMAP
    [Configuration]
    Reset Serial Number=0
    File System 1=2
    [TestItemOption]
    Do Preformat Test=1
    [Extra]
    Mode=3
    [Misc]
    Volume Label=USB DISK
    Burner Erase All=1
    Wafer Erase All=1
    set1667=0x00
    [Advance]
    FC1=0xFF
    FC2=0x01
    [Firmware]
    ISP=0

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  43. Yesssss It's work very fine

    Thank

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  44. Tried the latest Phison_MPALL_v3.33.0C but, even though it accurately showed my PS2251-50/30 in the drop down list, it didn't work.

    So resorted to the MPALL_V3.20.0B as in the original blog and worked perfectly.

    Damo
    London

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  45. Worked exactly as stated. Thanks so much for this helpful walkthrough!

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  46. hi this worked great and thanks

    but could you please share how you managed to dismantle the key as i want to house it in Lego and i need to remove the case and i cant see how to do it

    Thanks again

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  47. I basically had to deform the amber end cap and then force the internal circuit board out this opening.

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  48. ok thanks for that

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  49. v3.29.0B worked for 32gb in Jan 2012.

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  50. Phison_MPALL_v3.20.0B worked for 32GB from Jan 2012, but with Controller = PS2251-38. Thanks.

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  51. I also have a (from getinfo) PS2251-50/30 (fw 01.08.10 date 2010-07-15 flash type, flash type Toshiba) 32 GB key, it shows with getinfo as a USB DISK 30X and I cannot get it to format, error 0x5020

    This key is from a FDS advanced 2011

    Using tool V320_0b and successfully flashed a different 32GB key (prod name USB DISK 2.0, fw ver 03.01.30, 2010-10-26) have tried newer versions of the tool with no luck on the key that won't format.

    anyone else have the same key that won't format? (USB DISK 30X)

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    1. I get this error as well.... and it shows as a USB Disk 30X no matter what controller I use..

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  52. load file ISP (in Settings)
    + reset flash (contact in FLASH MEMORY CHIP 29 and 30 contact before insert to USB-Port)
    read this
    http://www.flashboot.ru/index.php?name=News&op=article&sid=24

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  53. Yes. I also have a Factory Design Suite Advanced USB Key (32GB) that will not format. I receive error "Format File System Error, returned 0x5020". Mine also now shows as USB DISK 30X when I do GetInfo.

    I'm going to try other versions of the software to see if I can get it working.

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  54. FDS Advanced 2011 (32GB)
    ICVersion: 2251-50 / 30
    Mode: 255
    FW Date: 2010-07-15
    FWVersion: 01.08.10

    Tried multiple versions of Phison MPALL software and it is failing at the end of the format with error Flash Write 0x5012 (V3.33.00).

    When I insert the drive Windows now prompts to format the drive which cannot be done through Windows. It fails and states the drive is Write-Protected.

    Any other suggestions?

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    1. Same problem as you. Did you fix it yet MDURST?

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  55. I have "Driver : F: Mode 3 Flash Status Error" when I click on "Update" button. My Drive is 16GB size, controller is 2251-60/90. Please advise. Thanks

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  56. Where do I find the MPALL_F1_9000_v320_0B.exe file? All I can find is the file with the RAR extension rather than the EXE.

    What am I missing?

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  57. You probably need to unzip the RAR file to find the EXE. You can use 7-Zip

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  58. Disregard my last post. I figured out the RAR file extension question.

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  59. Take the rest of the day off!!!

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  60. Works perfect for the 16g with v3.20.0B, but the v3.33.0C gives checksum error

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  61. thank you man.you are the greatest
    fantastic work!!!
    100% time saver

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  62. Thank you so much for Sharing.
    for me it was very helpfull.

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  63. accidentally formatted USB flash drive as a HDD, a USB flash drive to restore a removable storage? (((

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  64. thanks for sharing,,, in my case i had 16gb imation nano with PS2251-60 but unluckily it cant be detected when i plug it... i hope you can help my probs or email me at nomanlosa@yahoo.com TIA

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  65. Luke... You're great guy. I works perfect for my Product Design Suite USB Pen... he he he... Thanks for sharing!! :)

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  66. did it many times successfull but now i have a stick with PS2252-60 /90
    FW Ver. 01.05.10
    FW Date 16.06.2011
    with mpall v3.20.0B flash status error
    with mpall v3.33.00 get the error code 0x1042 when want to flash
    I think its with the VID 0930 all others had 13FE
    and on the cover its named PA3708L

    has anyone a tip for me

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  67. get error 0x1402 with a 2251-60 / 90 and mpall 3.33.00
    older version get status error
    FWVer:01.05.10
    FWDate:2011-06-16
    anyone an idea?

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  68. for all with errors in mpall try this http://www.sdean12.org/USBFlashTools.htm with the erase button
    worked great for me fast and simple :-)

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  69. If you are getting checksum errors... try this.

    I first downloaded the latest Phison_Mpall v3.33.0c. I followed the settings and got "Checksum Error". I then went back and downloaded the Phison_Mpall v3.20.0B, followed your settings and Wham-O... it works!!! YES.

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  70. my Solution :

    32 GB Stick (delivered:Factory Design Suite 2012)

    PS2252-60 /90
    FW Ver. 01.05.10
    FW Date 16.06.2011

    Download this tool: http://ul.to/g7u5dols
    Nothing else from above worked for me...
    But this tool is nice :-)

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    1. This low-level formatter worked nicely for me as well. After both the 0B and 0C did not seem to progress [0C with checksum, the other with no visible activity] the easy button formatter took care of the dise in a few minutes with immediate results.

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  71. This worked great for my 16GB!

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  72. i have done all tutorial instruction, but it doesnt work at mine (Toshiba usb 6GB)... however, for others stuff i think it can be useful... thanks alot!!

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  73. Doesn't work for me. I have ICVersion 2251-63. I get a "Load PVC0 File Fail !! Please check it" error.

    Please help

    Thank you!!

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  74. gr8. worked like a breeze.
    thanks a ton.

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  75. 32 GB Stick

    PS2251-60 /90
    FW Ver. 01.05.10
    FW Date 16.06.2011

    can not work for me :(

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  76. GetInfo doesn't see the 2013 release 32GB USB stick. I downloaded the latest version and tried that which also did not see the device.

    It all worked fine on the 2012 release device.
    I suspect the chip has changed between the releases.

    Any other programs available to interrogate the chip?

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    1. Same problem here.
      The formatter tool from http://ul.to/g7u5dols doesn't work either.

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  77. I used this from post above: http://uploaded.to/file/g7u5dols
    Worked Great and was easy

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  78. i just received 2 flash (32GB) for Product Design Suite Ultimate i was thinking what i will do after installing the SW i have a spare one and i tried to format the other one to use it but i fail i tried from CMD, regedit, all the Phison MPALL versions also but no thing helped me,
    i checked the code but suddenly i didnt find any code one the drive after open it !!!
    any one can help me in these, Thank in advance.

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  79. i open the usb and i found the following
    SM3254Q AE
    SIP051541
    on the small chip but nothing on the big one
    how can i use this info ? can any one help please, TY.

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  80. Formatter worked perfectly on Building Design Suite Premium 2012

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  81. After receiving two USB copies of Building Design Suite Premium 2013 (why they've done this yet again, I have no idea), I decided to unleash this method on one of them. New drives are model PA3708L, not PA3708. The same method works just fine, but at step (7), set Controller = PS2251-60

    Cheers to Luke and to AutoDesk for my new 2013 and two old 2012 32GB flash drives!

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  82. Just received my to usb drives with building design suite 2013 but nothing works for me.
    Can someone help me formatting the usb drives?
    Thanks

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    1. I used this from post above: http://uploaded.to/file/g7u5dols
      Worked Great and was easy

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  83. hi all,

    actually i downloaded 3 versions of Phison_MPALL in all the versions once i open the Getinfo then put the driver letter it give " input removable drive " and i already plug it, can any one help me how can i make it work, Thanks

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  84. i am try to the MPALL 3.33 version but dont read to getinfo.because other chip to 2013 Flash disc.

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  85. hi all,
    i open the flash memory but there is nothing wrote on the chip !! do any one have a software which can check the HW details maybe this way i will know which SW should i use.

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  86. I get the message "Device not found" when I run Getinfo.exe and enter the drive letter. What to do?

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  87. Excellent write up. Thanks for the information, worked great!

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  88. hi, for 2013 flash disc: 16gb no problem.because chip =PA3708 but 32gb chip=empty and dont read to getinfo :(

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  89. It worked for Autodesk BDSPRM 2012 (32GB) usb drive but now 2013 version came with "DanaElec zMate USB Device" Getinfo can not find device. Also USB Flash tools 2.10 can not erase disk. Is there any solution?

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  90. For 32 GB zMate USB drives with (SMI) SM3254AE controller, you can use SMI ReFixInfo 1.0.0.1 to remove the write protection.

    http://flashboot.ru/Files-file-626.html

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    1. How does ReFixInfo work? All I can get it to do is say that the test has "passed" - it does not make a difference to the 32GB zMate drive at all.....

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    2. SMI ReFixInfo doesn't appear to be finding the USB drive. Any secret to getting the software to locate the USB drive?

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    3. thanks it works for me . finally

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  91. Hi..
    Anyone got it working for the "Product Design Suite Premium 2013" 32gb drives...tried the SMI ReFixInfo as posted above but i dont know how to use it..
    Please help...

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    1. Enable Format NTFS and Reset Write Protect (un-writeprotect)

      Then Hit Start and that should allow you to do a manual format on the drive.

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    2. It is exactly what i did and it works.
      Bunt you have to do it for one first then uncheck the box and check the second otherwise the program does not respond.

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  92. Got the "Formatter_SiliconPower.exe" to work best. I used this link to download program:

    http://uploaded.to/file/g7u5dols

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    1. This worked for me.

      http://uploaded.net/file/g7u5dols

      FWVersion: 01.05.10
      FWDate: 2011-06-16
      ICVersion: 2251-60 / 90

      Aaron The Young

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  93. I've just received my 32gb PDSP 2013 USB key.
    I have copied the data out of it...
    How can you stuff 49.4gb of data in a 32gb (29.4gb) drive ???

    Is it really a 32gb or a 64gb ???

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    1. I think there is some filesystem level compression going on with some of these USB drives.

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  94. The Formatter_SiliconPower.exe works fine for me. 16GB IDS 2012 stick

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  95. Any luck with the Autodesk Inventor 2013 / product design suite 2013 flash drives??

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    1. I just unlocked a 32GB 2013 Product Design Suite Premium with the Phison 3.20.0B.

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  96. Thank you! Worked great.

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  97. Many Thanks mate this worked ! Nice job !

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  98. Formatter worked like a champ. I now have a 32GB jump drive to use. I knew it would be possible, but it was starting to make me wonder if it was worth it! I guess I should have googled reformat Autodesk USB...DUH!

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  99. Thank you! it worked great

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  100. Revit 32GB Thumb drive's successfully unlocked thanks to this tool: http://uploaded.to/file/g7u5dols

    Thanks all!

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  101. Used SMI ReFixInfo for "Product Design Suite Premium 2013" 32gb drives and succesfully unlocked. Just Enable Format NTFS and Reset Write Protect (un-writeprotect), then hit Start, as was adviced earlier.

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  102. I had a number of issues getting any of the utilities to work. In my case, it turned out to be the automatic scan that is setup through our AV software causing the drive to be in use. I stopped the service and that fixed the issues for me.

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  103. New USB flash with PDSU 2013 with blu led - DaneElec zMate Aero - not detect in Phison MPALL v3.33.0C. About other controller then PHISON 2251.

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  104. detect controller with ChipGenius or ChipEasy, search MPTool for this controller
    http://imgs.su/tmp/2012-06-15/1339730206-495.jpg

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  105. the formatter.zip method just worked for me as well.

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  106. Tried all programs listed here. Does not seem to work on Plant Design Suite Premium 2012 (16gb).

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  107. [EDIT] MPALL_v3.29.0B works on Plant Design Suite Premium (16gb).

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  108. Awesome, thanks!! After much searching I found your instructions, and it works perfectly. 4 32GB and 1 16GB now can be put to good use!

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  109. Is there an updated version of MPALL greater than v3.33.0C that supports the PS2251-67 controller? I just received my 64GB drive from Autodesk and that is the controller on this flash drive.

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  110. for PS2251-67 No MPTool freely available

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  111. in V3.60 support new controller - 2251-67

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  112. where to get v3.6? and if it is not out yet, do you know when it will be?

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  113. It does not work to format Autodesk PDSU 2013 32GB.
    I have tried many programs.
    Someone who are able to formate this USB?
    I need help....

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  114. need info about controller and memory = need report ChipGenius v4.00.0025 RC3

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  115. Hello from beautiful D.C. (Denver, Colorado). Worked great on my BDSU 2012 32GB flash. Rock on!!

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  116. No luck with my BDS Premium 32gb USB Drive - has anyone got anytips for getting this unlocked?

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  117. I used Phison_MPALL_v3.60.0B for a BDSP 2013 32gb. I didn't really tweak the settings, just found the drive in MPALL and hit 'Start'. After that, I re-formatted with Windows to FAT32 anyway.

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  118. http://uploaded.net/file/g7u5dols
    Formatter did the trick. No config, nothing at all except to unzip the files and execute.

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  119. Thanks,it's perfect..^^

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  120. At this Time a new USB Hardware will be shipped named DaneElec zMate USB 32 GB Device. The known Tools are not running, any suggestions ?

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    1. Inside my USB Drive (also named DaneElec zMate USB 32 GB) I found a controller SM3254Q AE, produced by SMI. I used smi_mptool_v2.03.34_v7_j1118_3254ae and now it works.
      The software I downloaded from site: http://tagievara.narod.ru/pages/programs/flash/smi.html
      Direct URL: http://depositfiles.com/files/acu0018d9

      1. Run sm32Xtest.exe.
      2. Press "Scan USB" button.
      3. Press "Start" button.
      After few minutes the device is ready to use.

      Have fun :)

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    2. Hi All,
      If i want clone BDSP2013 to BDSP2012 USB
      What kind software can be use?

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    3. My Autodesk Building Design Suite Premium also came on a DaneElec zMate USB 32 GB USB drive. I downloaded the tool via the link above and it worked perfect.

      Thanks!!

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  121. thanks from france (again) worked on autodesk 2012 32GB USB key with Phison 3.20.0B

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  122. SMI_MpTool worked like a charm on my 32gb BDSPRM key.

    Great work guys and gals! Thanks a bunch

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  123. I used http://www.irevit.com/images/Storage/Formatter.zip and it worked perfectly, first time. Thanks so much, and thanks to Craig at iRevit. I am so grateful for you people taking the time to post this sort of information.

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  124. Thanks loads! Worked like a charm, now I have a useful usb drive working. What a pity u arent' near but u deserve a beer immediately
    best regards

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  125. Toshiba miniUSB 16GB > use formatter.zip.
    After that, use a common format from Windows.
    It works. Good luck! :)

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  126. Formatter_SiliconPower.exe is working on my 16GB. thanks for sharing.

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  127. This worked a treat for a 16gb drive branded "OPTIMA" bought from Sainsbury. The drive had been used on a linux pc and suddenly went dead. Using windows 7 "manage computer - disk management" utility showed "no media" reported for the drive. So, not possible to format or do anything with it. Cracking the case off revealed a Hynix memory and Phison controller. Googling brought up your page and following your instructions brought the drive back to life! Well done and thank you. PS my mp.ini file was almost the same as yours, only difference was USB PID=0x3600 and TICK = 1.

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  128. use this method for my 16 GB Toshiba Flash Drive and it works.

    Thank You so much.

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  129. Worked like a charm for the 2013 design suite ultimate. 16GB Toshiba flash. Just changed the controller to -60...

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  130. Thank you very much Luke, worked without any flaws on a 32GB and a 16GB.

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  131. GetInfo gave the exact same info as your screenshot but the case on the drive itself says "16GB." So, I proceeded with the same settings that you used in the blog (I did not have to use -60). It worked, and it formatted as a 16GB drive (14.91 usable). But, what is interesting is it had 28GB worth of software on it which made me originally think it was a 32GB drive even though it was labeled 16GB.

    Has anyone else seen this?

    Thanks!

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  132. Mil gracias, había probado un montón de programas pero ninguno había funcionado, pero este funciono a la perfección, estoy muy agradecido.

    100% satisfecho

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  133. Just formatted a BDSP flash!!! Awesome, recycling is so much fun!! Thanks for cracking this for us other geeks :-)

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  134. well, are they back to Toshiba? We got a 64gb USB here - Got PMALL v3.63.0C. It sees the unit as ICVersion 2251-67, FWVersion 06.00.10. MP Version says v1.05.1B

    In the end, it gets me "Format File System Error. returned 0x5020"

    Any ideas?

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  135. Thanks lot ...............i did successfully format its working fine

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  136. 2013 Entertainment Creation Suite ultimate. 16GB Toshiba Flash, worked like a charm.

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  137. Anyone else lucky with a 64GB? Keep getting "Format File System Error. returned 0x5020" no matter what I try... TIA.

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  138. Does anyone know what is the "PVC 0 security key" binary file that seems to be mandatory when trying to flash a Phison 2251-63 using MPALL v3.63.0C ?
    Can I build it on my own?

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    1. Where did you get the MPALL 3.63 tool?

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  139. Ok, I just made a really unexpected discovery with one of my 3 32GB Autodesk USBs using Ubuntu as the operating system.

    The first two I went through the tedious process detailed above of downloading the software on a Windows based PC then formatting.

    Now, here's the interesting bit:
    For my third USB I did not have access to my Windows PC but had my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop with me. I plugged in the USB, "Unmounted" it first then simply formatted it... took less than 3 seconds.

    I can now reformat to any file system and operates and functions without any issues on my Windows PC just like it was always writeable.

    Can someone else confirm this that I'm not going crazy? I'm sure you could achieve the same if you had a Ubuntu Live Boot Disk.

    I would like to know if other Linux distributions can also format in the same way?

    I'll hopefully have another USB soon that I can test with on Ubuntu or other suggested OS.

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  140. Formatter worked a charm - nice work!

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  141. By accident we got a couple more drives than expected... 36 of them! all 16 GB drives. keeping one for storage as intended the rest was kind of redundant.

    First of thank you for this page!

    With a little effort we everyone at the office can get some storage
    http://postimage.org/image/efuf5h7yj/

    With so many drives it is the best way to get impressions on what can go wrong. here are the results:

    - Most of the drives worked instantly with the sp_llformatter_v2_11_3_0 tool. formatted as fat32.
    - Some (between 5 and 10 drives) were not write protected and repartitioned. It needed formatting in windows
    - 3 drives failed. Error "format failed -2", the Phison_MPALL_v3.20_ps2251 utility recognizes the drive but gives error "timing error" These drives have a 16 gb raw partition and are still write protected. These drives light up blue instead of red.

    Repairing the blue flashing drives are identical when examined with ChipGenius.

    sucess rate 91% I think is is worth the try for everyone not using the drive!

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  142. Formatter worked a charm - nice work!
    Terimakasih

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  143. has anyone had any luck with a PS2251-67, I've downloaded all the PSALL versions I can find, up to V3.63 and get varying errors. V3.63 gives me the error IDBLK file version check error. I saw mentioned somewhere on another forum to include the IDBLK_TIMING.dll version number in the settings, but I have no idea how to do that. Any help / ideas would be much appreciated.

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    1. i got the same problem with the PS2251-67

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    2. It took some searching, but I found a solution for the latest drive that I received with the PS2251-67 Controller.

      1. Download the file from this link... http://www.silicon-power.com/UFD_Recover_Tool/UFD_Recover_Tool.rar and extract it to your drive.

      2. Plug in your USB drive.

      3. Run the format tool from the download.

      4. Unplug your USB drive and plug it back in.

      5. Format the drive using the Windows format tool (or other tool of your choice) as NTFS.

      6. Enjoy!

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    3. Nice work Ryan! I'll add it to the main post.

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    4. PS2551-67...UFD tool formatted the flash drive, then on re-insert and windows format to NTFS. Error Write protected. No luck? Am I missing a setting on either the UFD or windows format?

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    5. usb hub power exceeded after doing tips from ryan , help me

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  144. The 64GB drive I got, which shows as PS2251-67 won't get formatted with the UFD recover tool. I get a Low Level Format FAILED.

    Any ideas?

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  145. PDSP & PDSU 2013 - I used MPPALL 6.63 from http://ap.upan.cc/plus/download.php?open=2&id=2645&uhash=4155e7d87259de4505255e4a

    It wasn't plain sailing though!
    Firstly I was getting an IDBLK file version check error so had to type the version number in the IDBLK_TIMING.dll Version box (Settings > Advanced > Other Setting).
    Then I was getting "Format File System Error. returned 0x5020" so I ticked Do ISP, Erase Code Block, and Auto ISP on the IC_FW tab (again you need to choose Settings > Advanced).

    Hope this helps somebody, and thanks to all previous posts... I'd have never done it without you!

    sturjl

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    1. Hi!
      I tried with s Toshiba drive PA3708L 32GB but did not work :-(

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  146. Thank you for sharing this!

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  147. How can I erase the new Autodesk Media Kit? (Available since 02/2013)
    They are using Toshiba 32GB N723 Z218 PA3708.

    Thx

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  148. More Details to the new Autodesk Media Kit, taken from a Factory Design Suite Premium 2013:

    Toshiba

    On the outside
    :: 32GB
    :: N723
    :: Z218
    :: PA3708

    Stick
    :: 1303

    Platine
    :: D 32GB
    :: 511-130116065

    Chip
    :: PHISON
    :: PS2251-67-5
    :: UT1250C
    :: D6WR7.1288

    Chip 2
    :: TT57G2GAHC
    :: T1251
    :: CP0490524.00C

    Hint:
    EDIT 7 wont't work at this type of stick...

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  149. How to format the AutoDesk 2013 USB drive? None the above solutions worked.

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    1. FINALLY

      The latest drives ie: Toshiba 32gig 2251-67, 13FE, 4100, is formatable using specifically MPALL v3.63.0C with the following settings: (SUCCESSFULLY FOMATTED 10 DRIVES WITH NO PROBLEMS)

      [PenDriveMP]
      IC Type=PS2251-67
      [Parameter Mark]
      Parameter Type=F1_MP_21
      [Customize Info]
      USB VID=0x13FE
      USB PID=0x4100
      String Product Name=USB DISK 2.0
      Inquiry Version=PMAP
      [Configuration]
      Reset Serial Number=0
      AutoFirmware=1
      [TestItemOption]
      Do Preformat Test=1
      [Extra]
      Mode=3
      [Misc]
      Volume Label=USB DISK
      Burner Erase All=1
      Wafer Erase All=1
      set1667=0x00
      [Advance]
      FC1=0xFF
      FC2=0x01
      [Firmware]
      ISP=1

      Regards Peter.

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  150. I have a drive that needs MPALL 3.64.0B. I can't find that anywhere. Does anyone have an idea where I might be able to find that?

    Thanks

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  151. Ugh - This is a 64GB one - MPALL 3.63.0C-DL17 seemed to work better, however, I'm getting in the end an error:

    Format File System Error, returned: 0x5020

    Any ideas?

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  152. Ok - so I wonder if I'm using the wrong MPALL.

    GetInfo shows the following:

    VID: 13FE
    PID: 3200
    ICVersion: 2251-67
    Mode: 3
    FWVersion 06.00.10
    FW Date: 2011-12-26
    FC1-FC2: FF-01
    Flash Vendor: Toshiba
    MP Ver: MP v1.05.1B
    Flash Type: MLC
    Inquiry Revision: PMAP

    Any ideas?

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  153. Ok - After a couple of passes using 3.63.0C and the settings above it worked! Got 60GB.

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  154. Recieved Brand New USB's For Autodesk Design Suite 2013 Premium
    IC version 2251-67

    This is how i reformatted them
    Download MPALL_F1_9000_v363_00 and MPALL_F1_9000_v363_0C

    Run Getinfo
    open MPALL_F1_9000_v363_00

    Click Update
    In Advanced settings
    set Controller to PS2251-67 and FC1-FC2 to 01
    In Firmware tick 'Do ISP' 'Erase Code Block' and 'Auto ISP'
    In Partition Seeting Tab
    Set Number of Partition to 1
    Save and Press Start
    This will Fail

    Close MPALL_F1_9000_v363_00
    run getinfo in MPALL_F1_9000_v363_0C folder
    and open MPALL_F1_9000_v363_0C

    Update again
    go into advanced settings
    set Controller to PS2251-62 and FC1-FC2 to 01
    Untick all boxes in firmware

    In Flash Settings Tab Check
    Auto Detect
    Preformat
    Erase Flash

    In Partition Setting Tab
    set 'No of Partitions to 1'

    save and press start

    This should run succesfully!

    Good Luck

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  155. Edit #8 resulted in the same IDBLK version check error. Ran the Formatter_SiliconPower afterwards and ended up with a working drive. Thanks!

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  156. Where do I donload MPALL_F1_9000_v363_00 and MPALL_F1_9000_v363_0C?

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  157. Awesome worked perfectly! How did you figure this out!?

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    1. Trial and Error mainly :D

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  158. Thanks guys, awesome thread. Repurposed some 2012 Inventor flash drives to put on the "download only" 2014 Inventor products. Ended up using the silicon power solution for the 16gig flash drive.

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  159. My Flash Drive is toshiba 32 gb
    And Formatter.zip is worked
    Thank you everyone :)

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  160. Hello togehther,

    I have also the new Autodesk Media Kit USB-Flash-Devices. To use only the Formatter will not help. I will Need MPALL and have downloaded the lwtaest Versions v3.63.00 and v3.63.0C

    I tried to erase the USB-Flash_device with this tip:
    "EDIT 9 - 3 step process for 2013"

    But it doesn't work.

    Here are the Information from "Phison MPALL v3.63.0C" >> "GetInfo":


    USB-Media: Autodesk Product Design Suite Ultimate 2013
    The USB-Media-Kit is from 04/2013.

    Tab "Information"
    - VID: 0930
    - PID: 1400
    - HID VID: N/A
    - HID PID: N/A
    - CCID VID: N/A
    - CCID PID: N/A
    - Manufacture Name: TOSHIBA
    - Product Name: TOSHIBA USB DRV
    - Inquiry Vendor Name: TOSHIBA
    - Inquiry Product Name: TOSHIBA USB DRV
    - Inquiry Revision: PMAP
    - Serial Number: 2013-3-14 14 : 33 070833EE217B4B68
    - ICVersion: 2251-03
    - Mode: 3
    - FW Version: 01.05.10
    - FW Date: 2013-01-18
    - AES: N/A
    - FC1 - FC2: FF-01
    - Flash Vendor: Toshiba
    - MP Ver.: MPALL v3.64.0E
    - Flash Type: MLC
    - USB Port: 2.0

    Tab "Partition Setting"
    - Total Capacity: 30176 (MB)
    - Unit Size: 32768 (KB)
    - Format Type: NTFS
    - MBR: Yes
    - Fixed Disk: No

    Tab "Other"
    - Flash ID: 98 de 94 93 76 d7 08 04
    - MP F1 F2: F1 + F2
    - ID_BLK Ver.: 1.2.35.0

    Has anybody an idea to erase this USB-Flash-Device?

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  161. The new 2014 usb is a 3.0

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  162. Do not use the formatter.zip on the latest 2014 version TOSHIBA USB 3.0 with the 2251-03.
    I did, mine is dead now.
    Tried lots of settings before in the Phison MPALL v3.63.0C, none of them worked.

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  163. Has anyone had any success with the 2014 drives yet?

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  164. Does anyone have access to the new versions of MPALL/firmware files for the 2014 drives? If so please post -- thanks.

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  165. Yes can someone let me know about the 2014 flash drives as well please.

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  166. any updates yet on how to reformat 2014 usb keys?

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  167. Use the tool: TRANSCEND-SM32X-PV1.0.89-BY-TAGARAZ-M0104 from this site: http://www.usbdev.ru/files/smi/ for the 64gb 2013 usb

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  168. No luck on the 2014 drives yet?

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  169. Regarding 2014 drives - received a BDSP 2014 USB today. It reports at about 20gb in Windows. It seems that the required MP tool would be:
    MP Ver. MPALL v3.64.0E

    However, I don't know where to obtain this.

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  170. Hoping for a download location for MPALL v3.64.0E. Been ordering 2014 BDSP at a rate of 1 a day in anticipation of a solution.

    Also, been playing around with whats available to try to crack the 2014s and can confirm...formatter will brick it. Gonna hang on to it though and see if v3.64 can revive it before i throw it away.

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  171. The 2251-03's are reporting as USB 3.0. Stick it in a USB3 slot, use MPALL v363, do low level format. Then, remove stick, replace and use Windows format.
    Works like it says on the box.

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  172. Simon,
    Could you be so kind, and explain it step-by-step, like 'for dummies'?
    ;-)

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